Need to Shift your Culture? Try using the Fish! Philosophy
May 24, 2012 Leave a comment
John Christensen, CEO of Charthouse and Dr. Sue Cain of the Corporate Learning Institute recently chatted about the importance of shifting corporate culture and engaging employees using the Fish! Philosophy. This timely interview will help you see new ways to increase motivation and engagement with your employees. The Fish! philosophy-play, make their day, choose your attitude and be there provide an essential recipe for leading your company’s four generations.
Sue Cain: John, you created the Fish video organically in Seattle’s Pike Place market. Was it inspiration at first sight?
John Christensen: There was a eureka moment when I saw the Fish mongers in Seattle’s Pike’s Place Market. I saw them hugging their customers, changing their world through how they serve people. The language of the Fish Philosophy was already there, already developed. Fish mongers were living these concepts: choosing your attitude, being present each day for each customer. You choose how you are going to show up today. The happiness movement started 10 years ago and is still present today.
Sue: How do you create a happy culture?
John: The culture is built on language. Choosing how you show up and having a creative, playful environment are key pieces. Job security also helps people engage with their work. How sad is it to be in a “waiting mode” in “work purgatory”? What a weird state to be in. How can we help people come alive?
Sue: Your four philosophies help create a culture check. Looking at the first concept of “Play”, today it is about being creative and innovative in the workplace and coming alive. Your second philosophy, “Make Their Day” means your workers have to engage beyond the surface level with each other.
John: Right. You have a choice about how you show up and how you’re engaging with other people. I’m not saying be happy all the time, but rather be aware that you have a choice about how you “show up” to people. A recent nursing study said that a nurse can tell before a surgery how long recovery will take based on the attitude of the patient.
Sue: Exactly. Pessimism can be very useful, but when it’s overdone it will have a consequence for the organization. Your concept “Be There” is about how you’re showing up to others.
John: This philosophy is about “who are you being while you’re doing what you’re doing”. It is most important to be present in the moment so that you’re able to see opportunities to serve people. We should each be asking: how can I use my attitude to see opportunities right in front of me to make someone else’s day?
Sue: On another note, really strong corporate cultures that facilitate adaptations to changes quickly show stronger financial results. In other words, the ability to “quick-change” builds a bigger return. There is evidence that a positive culture is a financial advantage for companies.
John: And another important question: are you creating a safe environment? Do people feel safe making important decisions?
Sue: In a culture that affirms learning, employees are more successful. We have a CLI whitepaper addressing the 4 current generations of workers and their preferences in workplaces. Your Fish Philosophy is an excellent framework to providing a check-up on these cultural needs.
John: Unfortunately, cultures generally just happen in organizations. Most companies do not consciously think about this when defining mission, vision, and values even though it’s important.
Sue: We’ll be offering a “train the trainer” session on culture shifts this fall at Charthouse. We have a step-by-step roadmap for companies to shift towards an effective culture. The “Time and Difficulty” model gives an idea of the commitment involved in making these changes. We start by using the Denison culture survey to assess the current culture of the company and identify strengths and weaknesses to improve upon. One of the great things about the Fish Philosophy is that it is not about fixing the past but rather about guiding the future.
John: Exactly. It’s more important to look to the future and plan how to get there rather than examine the past mistakes.
Sue: That’s why we help clients roll out a “battle plan” to help companies get to their ideal future vision.
John: It starts with one person. That one person’s attitude can shift a whole department and then move throughout the whole organization. The next step is the reinforcement of this changed culture.
Sue: Thank you so much for joining us today John. For our listeners, John can be reached by email at either:
In addition, www.charthouselearning.com features the Fish video, which can be used in many ways: a starting point, a talking point, and a learning tool for organizations.











